[New Car] Peugeot e-208/Opel Corsa E

[logic]

These share the same platform an will be released this year. They have a 50kWh battery pack.

Driving Model:

Option 1 - Analytical -

A        Peugeot: ‭2.49535‬m² Opel: 2.532775‬m² Source: https://de.automobiledimension.com/modelle/peugeot/208-2020 https://de.automobiledimension.com/modelle/opel/corsa-2020

Cd	Guesstimate 0.26
Crr	No idea, guessing similar tires to Zoe
M	Peugeot: 1530–1558 kg Opel: 1530 kg Source: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_208_II#Technische_Daten https://www.opel.de/fahrzeuge/corsa/technische-daten.html
Pidle	No idea.
η	No idea. They have efficiencies of 16,9kWh/100km (Peugeot) and 17kWh/100km (Opel) respectively in the preliminary WLTP Cycle

 

Charging Model:

Charge Curve - Said to charge at up to 100kW, Said to charge from 0%-80% in 30 minutes (https://www.opel.de/fahrzeuge/corsa/einfach-elektrisch.html). Curve no idea, might be similar to iOn or not.

Edited August 2, 2019 by logic

[Jason-ABRP]

Great numbers! Thanks @logic, I've built and released the model, feel free to pass your feedback our way and we'll adjust the model to real-world experiences.

[Jinbei]

Hello, 

How do you end up with an efficiency of 16,9 kWh/100km ?

If the WLTP autonomy is 340 km and the battery capacity is 47,5 kWh should not it be around 14 kWh/100km ?

Thank you

[Jason-ABRP]

On 8/26/2019 at 5:23 PM, Jinbei said:

Hello, 

How do you end up with an efficiency of 16,9 kWh/100km ?

If the WLTP autonomy is 340 km and the battery capacity is 47,5 kWh should not it be around 14 kWh/100km ?

Thank you

I've found the WLTP to be a bit optimistic, as we tune our consumption via modelling to 110km/h, and then add a little factor of pessimism to ensure we don't over-promise performance.  If we find that to be still too pessimistic once people start driving them in the real world, I'll be happy to update the figure!

[edgarw]

charging curve according to eCalc.ch - at least it was posted this way in a closed facebook group

[edgarw]

Corsa-e charging

https://youtu.be/_V9VVkU_TBs?t=335

23% - 76kW
25% - 77 kW

restarted with lower SOC:

https://youtu.be/_V9VVkU_TBs?t=1245

10% - 74kW
12% - 89 kW
15% - 90kW

no full charging curve unfortunately
final words say, charging curve declines above 20% SOC

 

[Jinbei]

Here is a charge curve shared by a german reviewer done on a 100kW charger. Exterior temperature is 10 degrees celcius.

 

 

[Jinbei]

Here is a 200km route done by a german reviewer on the highway. Max speed of 130km/h. From 100% to 2% charge, exterior temperature is 10 degrees celcius.

 

 

Edited February 2, 2020 by Jinbei

[edgarw]

Charging video 2%-85%, the capture above showing the columns is from this video

 

[edgarw]

Charging Video Opel Corsa-e

Figures are somewahat different from the same tester's Peugeot Video
 

 

[TomTomZoe]

In February we made four trips with a total of approx. 400-500 km driving my girlfriends new Opel Corsa-e.

The actual Opel Corsa-e Alpha driving model is very accurate. The destination SOC had a maximum deviation of 1% compared to the real SOC, the deviation could also be a result of rounding numbers.

ABRP ++++

Edited March 4, 2021 by TomTomZoe

[Bill N]

@Jason-ABRP I was wondering if you’ve explored the PSA API much yet, and whether there’s potential there to get any useful live data, or even to potentially do something similar to what you’ve done with Polestar.

https://developer.groupe-psa.io/

https://github.com/GroupePSA

Edited April 14, 2021 by Bill N

[Jinbei]

Peugeot updated the charging curve of the e208, it is now much quicker ! Test has been made on a 150kW charging station.

New charging curve :

Comparison with old charging curve :

 

Source : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeMYs1da2Aw

[RiotCop]

A new software update is available for the Peugeot e-208 and probably the Opel Corsa-e and Peugeot e-2008 as well which improves the charging curve a lot:

New charging curve (red line)

It would be great if you could add this to ABRP as well- Thank you!

[Bill N]

Has the charging curve been updated now? @Samuel-ABRP@Jason-ABRP

[Jason-ABRP]

Yes, that curve has been implemented.  Let me know if you find any further updates.

[TomTomZoe]

@Samuel-ABRP

I would like to know what "Speed overreporting factor" means and what the purpose of it is.

This value only exists on our Opel Corsa-e, but not on my Opel Ampera-e.

Edited February 17, 2022 by TomTomZoe

[Samuel-ABRP]

That's the difference between car reported speed and gps reported speed.

[TomTomZoe]

The Cockpit speed of Opel Corsa-e is very accurat:

It shows 131 km/h on cockpit

while GPS reports 129 km/h.

 

@Samuel-ABRP Why is the value for the "speed overreporting factor" so high then?

Yesterday noon while driving it was 7.1%  , in the evening just after arrival 4.0%.

 

Edited March 21, 2022 by TomTomZoe