Alpha Feedback - VW e-Up!

[Jason-ABRP]

To verify and improve our models we need your feedback.  There's many ways we could use help if you actually own one:

• Drive a plan and compare it to the actual battery used.
• Drive a plan with the browser active, and update your actual battery percentage in the browser.
• Contribute data via OBD or other methods.

The best way to improve the data is to provide data directly from the car.  Connecting your car not only improves the models, but allows you to follow up directly in the car while driving! We have several ways of doing that, but we need your help to figure out what will work with your car:

• An OBD reader can be used in concert with a custom app like LeafSpy, or a PID list and Torque Pro.
• If your manufacturer has an API to access data from the car we can set up access to that API, like we do for Tesla

If you're familiar with either of these, contact me at jason@abetterrouteplanner.com and I'll help figure out what we need to do to connect your car!

Thanks for providing feedback!

[edgarw]

May I suggest a similar charging curve as in 36 kWh e-Golf to begin with? Same for Skoda Citygo-e iV (weird chunk of chars) and Seat e-Mii or which ever name it'll get.

The upgraded e-Up wil have a very similar battery size as the 2nd e-Golf  (Up: 32,3 kWh net, 36,8 kWh gross, e-Golf 31,5 kWh net, 35,8 kWh gross) and is also limited to 40 kW max charging speed. Just a suggestion, I'd like to see nd mess around with the VW e-triplet in ABRP Oh and it might help getting people to buy it rather than a fossil small car.

https://www.heise.de/autos/artikel/VW-e-Up-Kommt-weiter-kostet-weniger-4514695.html

Edited September 9, 2019 by edgarw

[edgarw]

A little more data - in a table as we like it  
https://www.electrive.net/2019/09/10/skoda-citigo-e-iv-startet-in-deutschland-bei-20-950-euro/

[edgarw]

Charging video 0-75%

 

[EcoAlex]

Hi @Jason (ABRP)!

I noticed that the VW e-up! 2020 is still in "Alpha". Made me curious because the car is out for a while now. Do you still need information regarding charging speeds and efficiency? If so, I may help with a little research. I do not own the car (yet) but I'm willing to aggregate the information for you from different sources.

As a start there is a detailed google-chart online from Michael Schmitt (YouTube). I'm not allowed to copy the data and translate it since it's copyright protected. The first sheet shows charging speed of the e-up! 2020. I think this one is pretty straight forward. It shows SoC in Percent ("Prozent") vs. Current in kW ("Kilowatt"). The second sheet shows highway efficiency on a 59km roundtrip (500m vertical). Michael does the roundtrip twice at different speeds. First at 100km/h and second at 130km/h. The cruise control is set to GPS accurate speed after entering the highway. As he needs to leave and re-enter the highway for roundtrip the average is somewhat lower. That's why the 100km/h trip appears as 96.3km/h and the 130km/h trip appears as 125km/h on average. The energy consumption is 13.3kWh/100km respectively 18.7kWh/100km. The tests were conducted in a temperature range from 19°C-23°C.

Is this the kind of data you need? Or don't single tests help you much to refine the data-model for the e-up?

Best,
Silas

Edited September 1, 2020 by EcoAlex