Alpha Feedback - Porsche Taycan

[Jason (ABRP) 61]

To verify and improve our models we need your feedback.  There's many ways we could use help if you actually own one:

• Drive a plan and compare it to the actual battery used.
• Drive a plan with the browser active, and update your actual battery percentage in the browser.
• Contribute data via OBD or other methods.

The best way to improve the data is to provide data directly from the car.  Connecting your car not only improves the models, but allows you to follow up directly in the car while driving! We have several ways of doing that, but we need your help to figure out what will work with your car:

• An OBD reader can be used in concert with a custom app like LeafSpy, or a PID list and Torque Pro.
• If your manufacturer has an API to access data from the car we can set up access to that API, like we do for Tesla

If you're familiar with either of these, contact me at jason@abetterrouteplanner.com and I'll help figure out what we need to do to connect your car!

Thanks for providing feedback!

[edgarw 1]

charging curve

Edited September 6 by edgarw

[edgarw 1]

Oh and bare in mind that at 400V charging stations (even HPC if the're  limited to 400V), it can only charge at upto 50kW unless it has the "high voltage booster" installed. I really can't understand that Porsche does make this optional, frustration levels will be high for customers, whose dealers didn't know or understand about this.

So maybe you should split Taycans to versions with and without the booster. I hope the voltage info is available on all HPC chargers ...

https://www.electrive.com/2019/09/04/porsche-taycan-finally-revealed/

"At the 400-volt charging points, which are still more common at present, the charging capacity depends on the equipment of the Taycan. Only 50 kW is possible as standard, even if the station offers more. Those who order a high-voltage booster, for an extra charge of €416,50, can then charge with 150 kW on a DC charger. "

[Jason (ABRP) 61]

Agree that it's very strange of Porsche to leave such a gaping hole on an otherwise excellent car.  Just like Chevy's decision to offer a version of the Bolt without any DCFC at all.

In any case, I've added "w/ HPC" and "w/o HPC" as selections for the Taycan, and fully agree that there will be confusion in consumers who don't know the difference.  Especially when all the 350kW stalls are full, and they get absurdly low charge speeds on the 150kW stalls.

[edgarw 1]

Really? I didn't know that about the Bolt, Opel didn't do that with the Ampera-E.

Totally agree regarding Porsche, great work, Jason 💪

[edgarw 1]

fullychargedshow's Johnny charging the Taycan, not showing the chargin process itself though

 

[SHN 0]

Porsche Taycan 4S has two battery pack options, Performance Battery (80kWh) and Performance Battery Plus (93kWh, same as Turbo and Turbo S). Do you plan to add the options to the 4S?

[Bo (ABRP) 17]

Added!

I read the Taycan options list, and the HPC (150 kW) is like €400. Will anyone ever not choose that option? Should we remove the w/o HPC?

[edgarw 1]

6 minutes ago, Bo (ABRP) said:

Added!

I read the Taycan options list, and the HPC (150 kW) is like €400. Will anyone ever not choose that option? Should we remove the w/o HPC?

Let it please stay as there will always be dealers too stupid and customers who don't understand ... it's a very weird (to be very polite) decision of Porsche to make this an option. Customers who don't have it will be extremely pissed, once trapped for thrice the time at a 150 kW charger.