SoerenBM Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Hi, Description: Take phantom consumption into account when planning a trip/taking intermittent location (if you stay for the night - battery drain) into account. Perhaps you could tick off 'Sentry Mode' enabled ie. higher drain during the night. Use Case: I'm going on a round trip - Home > Work > Team building event with/from work at a different location with sleepover > Home. Sentry Mode will be enabled when parked at work (about 8 hours) and during the night/day at the team building location. Distances are Home > Work 180 km - Work > team-build location 141 km > back Home 192 km. According to abetterrouteplanner.com I need to charge once but only to 60%. But we know this is not enough as there will be battery drain when the car are parked during the day and night. Thanks and br. Søren Tesla Model 3 Performance Denmark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evequefou Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Since ABRP already supports charging at a waypoint (given power and time), it seems like this could be implemented by getting a few "phantom drain" approximations and modeling it as negative charging at a stop. Definitely useful, especially if the car will be sitting out in the heat (keeping battery warm) or cold (cabin overheat protection) or with Sentry Mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmissile Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I think this is definitely something that is needed. Sentry mode on vs off makes a big difference across a day of being parked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymess Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 (edited) May I please wake this old topic up to request this again. On a long road trip, phantom drain is a significant factor. For example we are currently staying several nights in each of several stops in Spain and we prefer to leave Sentry turned on in our Tesla (because we are parked in an unattended public car park) at a cost of about 3-10% per day. This is a significant effect if we are going several days between charges — easily enough to change the routing and charging plan significantly. I have been able to get a rough routing by putting in a negative charge overnight but that’s an ugly fix. Can overnight drain be added to ABRP please? Edited August 7, 2021 by anonymess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofia-ABRP Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Hi @SoerenBM, @evequefou, @mcmissile and @anonymess, Thank you for your suggestion! While we do not account for phantom drain while creating plans it will be accounted for if you have connected your vehicle to send live data to ABRP. By sending live data from your vehicle the app/web app will get updates regarding the SoC of your vehicle. The app will also recalculate routes every few minutes while driving to account for changes in both internal and external conditions. In order to connect your car to send live data to ABRP you must first save your car. To add the car, go to Settings (detailed) > Car model > Add my car. Make sure to select the correct car model and give it a suitable name. From this panel you are able to connect using one of the connectivity options listed on this page. For Tesla vehicles it's recommended to connect with "MyTesla". So while the app does not account for phantom drain while planning, it will be updated while you are on the road if your vehicle is connected. /Sofia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymess Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) On 8/11/2021 at 4:14 PM, Sofia-ABRP said: Hi @SoerenBM, @evequefou, @mcmissile and @anonymess, While we do not account for phantom drain while creating plans it will be accounted for if you have connected your vehicle to send live data to ABRP. Our issue is with planning, not live tracking. For example I've just planned a road trip from UK to Germany and back, but at my furthest location I will be parking with Sentry on for 2-3 days -- this makes a significant difference to the state of charge (perhaps 15-20% loss) and I'd like it shown in the plan so it sends me to a charger on my way in to the city. It's a relatively simple fix I think. Either add an overall setting which says "Subtract phantom losses" and another that says "assume use of Tesla sentry"; or add to the location stop screen a similar setting. Or add a field to the location stop screen (alongside the duration of the stop) in which we can manually guess loss per hour. Edited September 3, 2021 by anonymess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Goodfellow Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 I managed to work around this by entering a negative consumption into my stops. I entered -0.2kW in the waypoint Charge field, for the time I would be at the waypoint. Having this built in, of course, would be optimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
