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Hi,

how do I turn off abrp in android auto? Whenever I connect phone to my car, ABRP starts. And there is no way to turn it off except to load googlemaps. But as soon as I go back from google maps into AA main menu, ABRP starts again.

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Where does ABRP start? On the phone or in Android Auto on Head Unit?

 

Head Unit starts the app that was active last time I think, so if you had Google Maps active ABRP should not do anything until it is started manually i think.

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21 minutes ago, Samuel-ABRP said:

Where does ABRP start? On the phone or in Android Auto on Head Unit?

 

Head Unit starts the app that was active last time I think, so if you had Google Maps active ABRP should not do anything until it is started manually i think.

You are correct. I disconnected while beeing in google maps on headunit, and it did not auto start abrp.

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6 hours ago, Samuel-ABRP said:

Thanks @Brian D we will look into it however i have never seen that behaviour on my car (Ioniq). Can you please provide more information if you use live data and where it comes from and how you configured the car, maybe also provide the plan, that you used for your trip (you can share and then copy the link to that plan). Also if you could reproduce it in the emulator, it would be extremely helpful if you can tell us how you did it. If we can reproduce it ourself it's an easy fix.

@Alistair when i ran AA on emulator with car not moving, the SoC went down, as if i had entered a SoC without live data. Is your live data regularily updated or is that just the last state from when you last drove and no update was sent inbetween? For example if you query a car API every minute and you dont move the car, the same SoC will repeatedly be transferred to ABRP which results in always using the same SoC i think.

About showing which car you selected: We already have that on the TODO list. We will think about a way to either identify the car somehow based on information from AA (if Google provides that information eventually) or just show something visual in AA so you see it yourself.

@xflow7 we just released an update, that fixed problems with the app communication. Your first point from earlier indicated that you ran into exactly the problem we just fixed.

All:
Please update to the latest version and if you like it provide more feedback (also if you don't 😉 ).

The car is a Renault Zoe Q210 and live data is coming in via EV Notify. I'll redo the test with latest version and will save the plan.

By emulator, do you mean the "Test Drive" function or is there something else I'm missing?

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@Samuel-ABRP when I saw the issue there was no live data being sent from the car - the SOC was last updated the day before (live data showed as disconnected in the Android app, with a last update time of the day before), but it kept being treated as current in Android Auto. So, as I drove, the destination SOC gradually moved closer and closer to the last reported SOC from the day before (i.e. by the time I arrived the destination SOC was equal to my SOC from the day before).

I can see that the last known SOC might be valid to use at the start of the journey but after that it gets pretty misleading.

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25 minutes ago, Samuel-ABRP said:

I meant the Display Head Unit. Or did you record android auto during the drive on the phone (is that possible?)

The video is live data from the road with live SOC from EV Notify. Theres a setting in Developer Options on AA to dump the video to the SD Card. It can do audio also but it's in raw format and small chunks. I enabled that video setting and used ABRP on AA normally to navigate from current location to a point nearby.

What you see in the video is as shown to me during the drive on the head unit.

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The app looks great, there are some translation omissions and weird word choices for Dutch but works great. 

 

For me the navigation voice is a bit soft compared to other sounds in AA. 

I would love to update my soc in the AA while driving, but I think this a temporary AA restriction. 

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@Samuel-ABRP I was playing around on the web ABRP trying to replicate the issue, and I've managed to do so. This error is happening when I navigate from "My Position" to anywhere else, and have Live Data selected.

The Renault Zoe currently has limited support on EV Notify so should only have SOC, and I guess location imported. However, I have ABRP set to override the location.

 

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Hi,
I'm using beta-ABRP v.4.0.39 with Android Auto v.6.2.610913 in my Ford Focus MK4 with SYNC 3
My feedback:
- unfortunately in navigating mode there is no 3D view option.
- no tilt possibility
- no zoom buttons ( + and - )
- want to translate the menu ( language ) but didn't find the lang file.

Keep up the good work!

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Translations will be added later on. Navigation instructions are already translated, if you select the correct language in ABRP app settings. There really is not so much text in AA anyways, so i guess instructions are the most important ones.

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thanks for the AA headunit ABRP function, enjoying it. Yes a zoom function to zoom in and out on the map would be good, also is it possible to include current wind direction on the map to see whether the car is moving into a headwind or tail wind?

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I think my biggest request is a way to use Google Maps on Android Auto while still using ABRP on device and not with AA.  As it works now if you've plugged the device in then you can only send to AA.  I would like the choice to send to AA or use the device since half the time I would rather use Google Maps.

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You can send the current plan to google maps already, this is not AA specific. Not sure if you can send it to Gmaps on AA but you can send it to Gmaps and then connect to AA and it should be there.

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2 hours ago, Samuel-ABRP said:

You can send the current plan to google maps already, this is not AA specific. Not sure if you can send it to Gmaps on AA but you can send it to Gmaps and then connect to AA and it should be there.

My issue is more around already having connected AA with Google maps running on the head unit and then wanting to open ABRP on my phone at the same time.  There is no way not to send it to AA and use the phone instead.  The workaround is to set route via ABRP before plugging into the car but it's annoying when you forget.

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Hi Guys

I tried out AA support yesterday the first time in a Kona. First, ABRP supporting AA is great, but....

maybe you have to rethink the AA concept of ABRP. I think you will struggle and you have to invest a lot of time into the navigation guidance feature, until you will reach a level like Google maps or maybe you will never reach it.

Why not concentrate on the charging strategy aspect of ABRP planner and use the "share" feature to Google Maps for navigation?

Question 1: Can we have the Share option in AA to send the planned route to Google maps. I have to do it on the smartphone, because in AA there is no button for that. When ABRP is changing the planning during the drive, maybe we can have an autoupdate/share to google maps as well.

Question 2: Why I can't see all the planning details (planned charging stops, SOC burndown chart, charging times....) in AA screen? I would rather think of ABRP AA as the EV extension for google maps navigation to be honest.

Planning with ABRP, sending initial route to Google Maps for navigation guidance and showing ABRP planning data when switching to ABRP in AA.

Maybe we can have some PopUp overlays coming from ABRP with the crucial informations for a charging stop (Time for charge, SoC needed....), so we do not have to change to ABRP too often.

Think about it.

Thanks

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Thanks for your feedback. Please read the other replies in this thread, especially those about google restrictions.

Some of your proposals are not possible.

 

This is still beta and more features are to come, it's not the final version yet.

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3 hours ago, Samuel-ABRP said:

Still this is not related to our AA app, please open a feature request here:

https://forum.abetterrouteplanner.com/forum/5-features/

Not sure it's a feature request since it's only this way in the beta.  What happens if I don't want to use Android Auto with ABRP?  Are you saying that no matter what once this becomes mainline I will only be able to "send to AA" and not use my phone for ABRP?

This is what I normally do while driving, Google Maps on AA and ABRP on the phone:

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But on the beta this is what happens when I try to throw my destination in ABRP on the phone:

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And upon clicking the start navigating button:

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If you want I can add it as a feature request, but I see it as more of a regression is current functionality.  Also thank you for such an amazing app in general.

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I've used the AA app for a few days now, one bug I've had happen twice now is that the car screen hangs for a minute or two and is non responsive but then suddenly continues again.

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Ok, so I managed to get the beta version. I've played with it in my car and it just doensn't seem to work. 

First of all, there is no button to press to open ABRP in android car. When I use the app to send the planned route to android car, nothing happens. Although android car does crash a few times and when it does start android car and the phone get very slow. 

Any ideas what's happening here?

 

Thanks

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If you can't open the app on your headunit you do not seem to have the beta installed. There definitely has to be ABRP listed in the head unit app list. Please check if it is there again or check if there is an update. It takes some time until beta is activated and play store offers the update.

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