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This thread is for feedback on Car Play.  If you've got directions feedback, please submit that to this thread instead:

This thread should be focused on the specific elements and performance of CarPlay styling, capabilities and features, and overall usage flow of ABRP in Car Play.

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Hi - I’ve mentioned this isn’t the direction thread too, but I’d really like to see current GPS speed in the app and on CarPlay.

This may already be in the latest version, which I haven’t had chance to try yet, but I’d like there to be the + and - battery buttons shown in CarPlay so that those of us without live driving data can adjust the actual SoC, as necessary, through CarPlay.

 

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I have just tried the latest CarPlay version for the first time and I think it would definitely be good to have a way of setting the start SoC, and then also adjusting it during a drive if consumption is more or less than expected.

As far as I can tell, at the moment I still have to grab my phone to change the SoC.

 

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The navigation is kinda unreliable, GPS keep jumping away from the roads. It looks worse with CarPlay.

My set up:

* Mini Cooper SE - CapPlay

* iPhone 11, ABPR - CatPlay

* Electrified (Old work android Honor phone feedbasking to ABPR we interface)

It might be that Electrified feedbacks strange locations into ABPR, that overrides what the app is getting and than makes everything strange. The positions in the drive logs looks a bit off. And also in these positions i got really strange navigation. 

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16 hours ago, Balp said:

* Electrified (Old work android Honor phone feedbasking to ABPR we interface)

It might be that Electrified feedbacks strange locations into ABPR, that overrides what the app is getting and than makes everything strange. The positions in the drive logs looks a bit off. And also in these positions i got really strange navigation.

I found a app setting, to override the setting and use the GPS in the phone, I'll try a drive with that to see if that solves this issue.

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8 hours ago, Balp said:

I found a app setting, to override the setting and use the GPS in the phone, I'll try a drive with that to see if that solves this issue.

All the strange positioning comes from electrified, with the override car position in phone it works much more stable.

  • General feedback, could uses the phone screen more for upcomming navigation information when in CapPlay mode, if you compare to Waze it's turs of the map fully in the phone and only have that in the car.
  • Connecting and Disconneting the phone makes recalcuation the route a bit different. I guess CarPlay uses ios navigation and routing not availabe when carplay is disconected.

 

 

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Overall I’m a happy premium user, using ABRP with CarPlay in my Ioniq. One request for improvement: As soon as the first voice instruction is given by ABRP, my radio mutes and doesn’t come back anymore. Other navigation apps (Waze, Google Maps, Apple Maps) don’t have this issue.

I thought I read someone else posting the same bug in this forum but couldn’t find it back anymore.

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I would love to be able to operate abrp with just the carplay display. So planing a route, updating soc in case there is no live data etc. all that should be possible just using carplay.

I usually store my cell phone while driving - I do not like to have some kind of additional holder - it always feels clutched...

 

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I’ve noticed that when using ABRP to navigate via CarPlay, whilst listening to the car radio, ABRP directions interrupt the radio (as you’d expect) but the radio then doesn’t automatically return. (The same doesn’t happen with navigation from Google or Waze).

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Since the last update, I noticed that the app is no longer in north-up mode when driving, but in follow-mode.

is there a way to restore north-up mode again as that is my preferred way of driving.?

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I was using follow mode today and found that at times when I was not near a turn and the screen was zoomed back. my current location was way over on the right side of the screen and generally covered with something like the state-of-charge indication. 

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Today I discovered that follow is not so good on the Chevy Bolt. no matter what direction I am going.   The marker for where I am is always at least 1/2 off screen.  I figured out how to get north up and that was fine, though.

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Today I had a 50-mile(ish) trip which I could make with no charging, but I wanted to see how ABRP would handle charging.  So with live data turned off, I set the current battery level to 25% and the "must get home with" to 10%.  Sure enough it routed me to the charger.  However as I was driving along, ABRP kept popping up "You could save n minutes with an alternate route".  I believe the alternate route was to skip the charger and get home with a lower charge.  But the big problem was that even if I hit "dismiss" it came up again within seconds (and covered the time and distance remaining indicator").   It would disappear in 30 seconds or so but then pop up again in a few seconds.

At least the fact that it covers the time/distance is a CarPlay issue.  I'm not sure if popping up repeatedly is or not.

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Oh, and one more CarPlay (I assume) thing (for your US and other miles/feet people):  The directions start out saying something like "Take Exit 5 in 20000 feet".  That would make a lot more sense in km and meters--the conversion is trivial.  But I think distances should be in miles and tenths of a mile until the distance gets down to, say, 500 feet (which would be about .1 mile) and then switch to feet.

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Another issue discovered today:  It appears you are using the equivalent to the bluetooth HSP (headset protocol) rather than the HFP (hands free protocol).  The result, which is really unacceptable, is that (on a Chevy Bolt, but probably others) after spoken directions are given, the radio switches on even if it was muted before.  I think it wants to act more like a hands-free phone than like another music source.  (Note that Apple Maps behaves correctly, so it is certainly possible).

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On 5/13/2021 at 11:58 PM, Burns Fisher said:

Another issue discovered today:  It appears you are using the equivalent to the bluetooth HSP (headset protocol) rather than the HFP (hands free protocol).  The result, which is really unacceptable, is that (on a Chevy Bolt, but probably others) after spoken directions are given, the radio switches on even if it was muted before.  I think it wants to act more like a hands-free phone than like another music source.  (Note that Apple Maps behaves correctly, so it is certainly possible).

This could be why my Kia Niro plays the voice prompts through the door speakers instead of the dashboard centre speaker.  The robotic TTS was already hard to understand compared to the more natural Apple Maps/Siri and/or Google Maps voices, but having it play through the doors which are EQ'd for music rather than the dashboard which is meant for speech makes ABRP on CarPlay unusable for me.

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It should use the system default voice or make it selectable. I love the natural Siri one and jumping back to normal TTS was ugly. 

it zooms sometimes a bit to quick and to wide out. 

from my wife’s iPhone 6s its performance wise unusable 

it should show me the speed it calculated the route with in CarPlay 

 

 

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Today I started out on a short drive having set a destination (not really where I was going) to see how the latest version all worked.  2019 Bolt using CarPlay with an iPhone, getting live data from EVNotify.  (See another note of how I got this to work on a single phone, but essentially ABRP is running on CarPlay but not in front on the iPhone.  

In any case, I started out and the position was not updating.  I stopped and went into ABRP to switch to "override position" (i.e. use the phone position rather than getting it from live data).  Weird things started happening.

It appears that ABRP knew where I was.  It showed the road where I was and gave correct directions.  However, the marker showing where I was was not present.  It turns out that it was at a different location.  Every once in a while I would see it, way off the road, in the woods or something.  

When I came back home, I tried to repeat the problem, and could not.  It worked fine.

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How do you switch from "North Up" to "Travel Direction Up"?  I feel as though I have done it at one point on CarPlay but I can't seem to do it again.

Maybe on the same idea: If you touch the screen you get a map icon and a couple of position icons in the lower right.  The map icon switches between map and satellite view.  But what do the position icons do?  They have no obvious effect!

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I think a mute button on CarPlay would be nice. Also I think the blue background color of the driving instructions is pretty bright when driving at night which distracts a bit imo. Maybe a night mode would be helpful so it changes colors at night to a less bright one.

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