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Hi.

I have an ID.3 and I have used the online option with ABRP for other EV cars I have used before like Kona and e-Niro so of course I want the same support for our ID.3.

Right now I have a couple of tools that I use to try and read out and find the parameters, I also are trying to find a way to hardwire to the CAN bus on the inside of the CAN-gateway that VW use.

So anyone that want to contribute or help with information or if someone have connections on the inside of the VW organization that could be helpful, please give me a shout and we could try to collaborate o this.

Ill continue to update this thread as my main information point.

My goal right now is to try to make this possible through EVNotify as my first option, or via Torque pro or other ways if necessary as secondary options.

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On 12/4/2020 at 9:32 PM, flea said:

Hi Conny, just found a GitHub project that might be of interest to you: https://github.com/andig/evcc/issues/485 

They target the weconnect id API to retrieve SOC and remaining distance. 

The same as Tronity successfully do right now. But they can only import the SoC when the car is charging, not when you drive, so useless for ABRP.

I'm getting closer now to extracting the PID from the OBD so hope to come with good news after the winter holidays. 😉

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On 12/15/2020 at 6:25 PM, Jason (ABRP) said:

I'm getting the sense that we should do data fusion.  SoC while charging via the API for 'charging complete' notifications, OBD data while driving for accurate predictions.  Or a cell-connected+BT OBD dongle for remote data too.

Now at last I managed to read out all the parameters of my ID.3 🙂

What parameters are necessary? I will provide them to Giuseppe at EVNotify and let him be the first one to implement it in his tool.

After that should it be easy to link it into ABRP I guess?

 

BR

Conny

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On 12/15/2020 at 6:25 PM, Jason (ABRP) said:

I'm getting the sense that we should do data fusion.  SoC while charging via the API for 'charging complete' notifications, OBD data while driving for accurate predictions.  Or a cell-connected+BT OBD dongle for remote data too.

Or if there is a plan to get ABRP its own OBDII connectivity, then tell me and I will supply the parameters to you also.

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On 12/20/2020 at 7:21 PM, conny said:

Now at last I managed to read out all the parameters of my ID.3 🙂

What parameters are necessary? I will provide them to Giuseppe at EVNotify

 

@conny ,

count me in as a alpha or beta tester, I use EVNotify PnP in my Ioniq and could easily install it in the ID.3 as well. Did you contact Giuseppe already - are you in his EVNotify Telegram group? 

Cheers,

Andreas

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1 hour ago, flea said:

 

@conny ,

count me in as a alpha or beta tester, I use EVNotify PnP in my Ioniq and could easily install it in the ID.3 as well. Did you contact Giuseppe already - are you in his EVNotify Telegram group? 

Cheers,

Andreas

I have direct contact with Giuseppe and when the holiday will allow, the material will be sent from me to him. 

 

Best regards
Conny

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This is the status right now for me with my project to connect ID.3 to ABRP via EvNotify.

Module PIDs                      status version
Car operation mode               ok    1    
ODOMETER                             ok    1
Outdoor temperature             ok    1
SOC                                       ok    2
Vehicle speed                       ok    1
HW Battery current               ok    1
HW Battery voltage               ok    1
HW Battery PTC heater current           ongoing    0
DC-DC converter current     ok    1
DC-DC converter voltage     ok    1

 

Hopefully we will begin to test it in the coming days. 

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Yes!! At last, for the first time the ABRP - EvNotify integration is active. Now I can be connected with my ABRP->EvNotify->my ID.3 car.

Still only with the SoC (BMS), but soon with SoC (HMI) and the rest of the parameters that EvNotify and ABRP use.

In a couple of weeks, I will then release all the parameters for VW ID.3 so anyone can make their own app, or already existing apps can add support for ID.3

Best regards

Conny

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Last week I went on a 2000 km trip to the north of Sweden, I used ABRP with connection to my ID.3 though EvNotify. It works perfect, the SOC, speed and location is transfered to ABRP.

I needed to adjust th consumption because its not self adaptive yet, for that we need more parameters to be transfered to ABRP, we will test it soon.

In two weeks I will go for a 4000km trip to the far north of Sweden, I hope in that time to be able to use the self adaptive model for my car.

More info to come soon.

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On 1/31/2021 at 9:05 PM, conny said:

Last week I went on a 2000 km trip to the north of Sweden, I used ABRP with connection to my ID.3 though EvNotify. It works perfect, the SOC, speed and location is transfered to ABRP.

I needed to adjust th consumption because its not self adaptive yet, for that we need more parameters to be transfered to ABRP, we will test it soon.

In two weeks I will go for a 4000km trip to the far north of Sweden, I hope in that time to be able to use the self adaptive model for my car.

More info to come soon.

So, now I'm back after a bit shorter trip then planned, "only" 2000 km. 😉

And this week I also had all the parameters to make ABRP do an individual consumption profile, and it works amazingly good.

The only "bug" I found was with the CarPlay implementation, and that is that ARBP dont show on the car screen when something changes in the plan, only visible on the phone. And also if its possible to show the graph on the car screen would be nice, but its good enough already with the present SOC and SOC at arrival display.

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On 1/18/2021 at 2:01 AM, conny said:

Yes!! At last, for the first time the ABRP - EvNotify integration is active. Now I can be connected with my ABRP->EvNotify->my ID.3 car.

 

@conny how EVNotify is connected to ABRP?

Is it possible to have ABRP on iPhone that is used on ID3 CarPlay and EVNotify on Android device in the car?

Thanks!

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Yes this works like you say if both devices are online and the Android one uploads to EVNotify servers. Also EVNotify account and ABRP account need to be linked (EVNotify web interface --> settings --> integrations). 

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1 hour ago, flea said:

Yes this works like you say if both devices are online and the Android one uploads to EVNotify servers. Also EVNotify account and ABRP account need to be linked (EVNotify web interface --> settings --> integrations). 

Thank you! Works now. I will test it on a longer journey next week. Would ABRP Premium take in consideration live data, correct?

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My Calibrated Reference Consumption is way off

It started at -3257 I have done a few trips and it started to go to 0. but then it went up to +12410 and I can't get it down.

I can not plan any trips in the web interface even when I use my own consumption settings. On the phone there are no problems.

I use a Android phone that says in the car, maybe it goes of when the car is charging/saying idle.

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The reset 

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On 12/4/2020 at 10:13 PM, conny said:

This is a list of the different components that are accessible via the  CAN bus.

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Here is the same list with my info after 2.0 update and I will update it after 15/3 when I get 2.1 update also. image.thumb.png.fae6f181ec5fc19ad5a6a3675dee7b2e.png

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32 minutes ago, Bill N said:

Is this potentially any use for providing an option to get live SoC updates into ABRP without the need to use an OBD device? @Jason-ABRP

https://github.com/robske110/IDDataLogger

https://github.com/robske110/IDDataLogger/wiki/API-reference

Because it uses the We Connect api against VW, then there is no real usage for it with ABRP. It uses the same way to collect data as Tronity, and also get the same problem, that SOC is only collected before and after a drive, son only real use in ABRP is to see the charging session and no data from driving phase.

So it will only collect charging sessions.

https://www.tronity.io/home

https://help.tronity.io/hc/en-us/articles/360018344299-Volkswagen

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Now full support for a the ID.x (tested on ID.3 and ID.4) data is running, I'm pretty sure it will function on all cars that share the MEB platform, so I will try on Enyaq etc during next week.

The best support is integrated into evDash platform. I will also release all data soon on GitHub for all you hackers to play with. 😉

You can see all the parameters that I used for evDash platform here if you cant wait for my release of it all:

https://github.com/nickn17/evDash

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