Giessie Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Where are you from? Netherlands, Amsterdam What car do you drive? Kia e-niro What's the longest trip you've taken in your EV? To Emmen, just 200 km. Hi there, I haven't had any experience with a long trip with the e-niro, but soon I'm going to Italy. For this trip of 1000 km I'm looking into abrp. ABRP looks nice, the settings make sence so that should be ok. Ihave it setup in combination with EVNotify and a OBD2 dongle. For me it is not clear how the ABRP app (iphone) works during the drive. Will it navigate me to the charging stations based on the live data? For example my SoC for charging is 20%, when that threshold is being within reach will it send me to the next charging station. I did a testdrive (of 100 km) and I didn't get any instructions at all. I only saw the map and the graph. That is nice, but draws a lot of attention during the drive. And makes it difficult to reach the charging points. Is there a solution for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katya-ABRP Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Hi @Giessie, Welcome If you've made a plan that requires charging, yes the planner will direct you to a suitable charger according to the plan. It will not tell you to go to a charger merely based on the live data but instead: "if you're going from A to B you'll need to charge and you'll do the whole trip the fastest way by charging for X time at Y charger". We do have navigation instructions / route directions, have you checked if this option perhaps is turned off? You'll find 'Route directions' in: Settings (detailed) if you scroll down to 'App settings'. There are some different modes for driving mode, which you can play around with (best done when not driving). For instance, we now have 'simple mode' as an alternative to the graph which may be a distraction for some. It shows you the current live SoC vs the anticipated SoC upon arrival at next stop, time left and arrival time. In addition to that there are different 'map modes' which has the planner focus on different things and you can set it to always rotating depending on how you change direction etc. /Katya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giessie Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 Hi Katya, I did all above, but somehow I don't see the directions. I do see the graph or the simplified bar (simple mode). But it stays that way. I'll give it a try this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giessie Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 Hi, I retested today the route feature. In first instance it did not work. After removing the app from my iPhone and installing it again it worked. One side note, I did this last Saturday as well. Is this a known issue? I got an error which was send to abrp, this error Occurred when I wanted to restarted the route. Hoping that the direction would appear : The below plan fails; that does not seem to be correct because... App version: 4.0.28 Platform: ios User ID: 117611 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giessie Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 By the way, I received that error last Saturday as well, also send to abrp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giessie Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 So strange, today I used the abrp app again, just to see if it is working ok. The route is displayed and if you take a different turn then the route is adjusted. But no directs are displayed. See screenshot I took. What I find strange is that I only see very positive reactions on the app, are these android users which don't have the issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katya-ABRP Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Hi @Giessie, I've looked at the emails you sent us and and it appears that it is an attempt to calculate between the very same two locations which has failed all three times. The locations are; your position and an address. When looking at both of these two it appears that they're about the very same position on the map and this is a case which the planner cannot handle currently, thus it fails. It is on our to-do-list to give a better response in such situations. If your driving deviates significantly from the planned route the app will automatically re-plan to find a way to the final destination from your actual position. Does it display directions before it has re-planned but not after or are you still not getting anything at all? And you've made sure that the option is turned on like: /Katya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giessie Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 Hi Katya, Regarding the error, it is strange, as I adjusted the destination addres. First it was the destination of my initial route and once arrived there I choose as destination my home addres. Looks like something is conflicting on the background. Regarding the route directions, for shure it is switched on. Sometimes it gives me the directions, like a few posts ago, but on other cases (the majority) it doesn't give me the route directions at all. Once and a while I even don't get the route plotted (blue line) on the map. If I do a refresh then the route is plotted on the map. But still no route directions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katya-ABRP Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Hi @Giessie, It is possible that 'my position' wasn't refreshed after having previously been more or less the same location as your home address. We do have a coming update with improvements for route directions, it should improve things like these issues. What device model and OS version are you using the app on? /Katya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giessie Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 58 minutes ago, Katya (ABRP) said: Hi @Giessie, It is possible that 'my position' wasn't refreshed after having previously been more or less the same location as your home address. We do have a coming update with improvements for route directions, it should improve things like these issues. What device model and OS version are you using the app on? /Katya Maybe I had to Clear all before puting in a new destination. Good to hear about the coming update. I'm using an iphone SE2020 and IOS14.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katya-ABRP Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Hi @Giessie, Could've been the case yes. Okay, we released the update for iOS just a couple hours ago. v4.0.29 /Katya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giessie Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Katya (ABRP) said: Hi @Giessie, Could've been the case yes. Okay, we released the update for iOS just a couple hours ago. v4.0.29 /Katya Great, I'm going to give it a try. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryH Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 @Giessie Most likely you will run into another issue: iOS uptill now (as far as I know) does not allow an app in the background to stay active and keep a bluetooth connection life to read out the obd2 dongle. I bought a cheap android phone and run evnotify as well as abrp on it (while using my iphone as a hotspot). Alternatively you can use an old iphone/android phone to run evnotify using your normal phone as a hotspot. Note: also on android you need to activate background mode in "hidden" evnotify settings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giessie Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) Hi BarryH, This I already discovered and indeed I use an old Android phone for ev notify. What I did not know was the hidden setting of ev notify. Thanks Edited November 11, 2020 by Giessie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giessie Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 This is the hidden feature https://github.com/EVNotify/EVNotify/issues/166#issuecomment-570162267 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giessie Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/11/2020 at 12:36 PM, Katya (ABRP) said: Hi @Giessie, Could've been the case yes. Okay, we released the update for iOS just a couple hours ago. v4.0.29 /Katya Katya, I've tested the new iOS version and it looks like you solved the issue. Route directions work almost every time now. Sometimes I've to press the refresh button and then the directions show up. But in 99% of the time it is working! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katya-ABRP Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Hi @Giessie, Good to hear! In the cases where it still does not work is it in any particular situations or places or is it completely random? Would you also say that your location on the map follows as should? /Katya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giessie Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 Just now, Katya (ABRP) said: Hi @Giessie, Good to hear! In the cases where it still does not work is it in any particular situations or places or is it completely random? Would you also say that your location on the map follows as should? /Katya In the case it doesn't work there is nothing perticulair. It is only at the beginning, so you enter a destination, the routes are proposed, you click the blue arrow of the route to start. Then normally the first direction appears straightaway in the screen. In those cases it doesn't appear, but after Replan it does. On the map I can see my position and this is in line with the current location at that moment. Also when I drive a different route, it recalculates well. There is one thing to look at, to red arrow while navbigating is quite often behind the information like direction, battery bar (simple view). This is espacially the case on a phone screen like the iPhone SE (2020). Would be interesting to have the behaviour that you push down the information (is currently the case) into "Minimal Mode" and only the navigation directions show up when applicable. Once the navigation direction is passed it goes back to "Minimal Mode" again automaticly. So you see the complete map while driving and only get instructions when needed. Is also less distracting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giessie Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 Oh something else that would be interesting to add to ABRP is the function to retrieve live data from an OBD2 dongle. So the workaround via EVNotify (or simiplair apps) is not needed any more. The data from the OBD2 dongle can be used localy (off-line) for realtime data on the active route. But the live data from the dongle can be directly stored on the ABRP servers. Which is interesting for the statistics on power consumption for different brands/models in relation to the driving style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
