green light Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I am using the new UI now for weeks. At beginning I went back to classic many times. But after some time I found more and more of the features in the new UI style. But that's the major reason (for me) what I am missing or why I has to many problems with the new UI style: Everything is "hidden" in sub menus or sub sub menus. On the other hand there is this large are that is completely useless: the map. I thing this side bar style is a step in the wrong direction for usability on a desktop (where most people start their route planning): You have this small side bar, for everything you have to scroll and open sub menus. And during that part the large map area (which is about 3/4 of the screen) is useless. For example if you want to fine tune your car settings, like the max speed, which I like to configure different for most routes or want to see if a slower speed is an option. With the classic style is was part of the planing, just open the more details part. With the new style you have to open the car settings and there open the speed sub menu. Not that it is inside this deep menu structure. Due to the design style with the buttons at the bottom (settings, save, and that) visiting the "settings" part is some big step in my brain: I have to leaf the planning to open the settings part. Normally I visit settings in apps (or web sited) once when I visit the site the first time, but later really rare. But for ABRP planning I have to visit the settings for route planning and fine tuning. And still, all this 3/4 area for a map is not used for settings but for a map that isn't needed at that part. Even if I increase the size of the side bar, it is still a long list that requires scrolling. So the more space is not used for a better layout like 2 columns. And at a more or less unclean point the side bar jumps to the right site. Generally a good idea, however, everytime I am surprised at the first moment. Hopefully you can extract any ideas out of my description. This are just my thoughts of the current new UI style. Keep on with your create work! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason-ABRP Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Part of what guided us to this design was trying to make the site more accessible to newer users, and not showing everything all at once. For the power user, we assume that they'll soon get comfortable with the advanced settings array. That said, we are still refining the UI on the web, I think the mobile apps are definitely in a better spot than the new web UI for now. One easy change we could make is to auto-expand all the sub-categories on web, and I like the other ideas you've presented - I've added those to our tracker to work on going forward. We could definitely use a UI programmer's touch, and we've got an open position posted to help us with that (and other things) if you or anyone you know are interested: https://iternio.com/index.php/open-positions/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr DuMont Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) Why can I never get a response to my questions? I'm trying once again. This software seems to be a good idea, is the result of a massive amount of programming, but it is such a moving target as to make it unusable. 0) How do I revert to the "Classic" version. The current UI is just plain unusable. 1) Can't delete the location pointer which appeared with a right click' 2) How do you select from the two or three routes proposed on a given trip 3) How do I see the trip as a list displayed over the map as in the old version 4) Fighting the entry for departure SOC and time and the superfluous drop down menus are silly 5) Never yet figured out how to send a trip created on my laptop to either of my Teslas 6) What happened to the satellite view as in the original version? 7) I would send payment as support in a heartbeat if I knew that you would create a stable version Edited May 18, 2020 by Dr DuMont Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjg222 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Dr DuMont said: How do I revert to the "Classic" version. The current UI is just plain unusable. The classic version is always available at https://abetterrouteplanner.com/classic/. Quote How do you select from the two or three routes proposed on a given trip In the new version, to choose from alternatives, you can either click on the gray route of the alternative you want, or in the top of the side panel, there's an alternative route icon (see below) you can click to get to a list of options Quote How do I see the trip as a list displayed over the map as in the old version To show or hide the table of waypoints, you can click the icon next to the back button at the bottom of the sidebar Hope this helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr DuMont Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) I just noticed I had not expressed my thanks for those tip in reply to my post, so: Thanks Very Much for your help! One last thing - what happened to the satellite view that was on an earlier version? Edited June 8, 2020 by Dr DuMont Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason-ABRP Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 10 hours ago, Dr DuMont said: I just noticed I had not expressed my thanks for those tip in reply to my post, so: Thanks Very Much for your help! One last thing - what happened to the satellite view that was on an earlier version? At the moment satellite view is only available in the mobile apps where we can use the built-in Google / Apple maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr DuMont Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 'Nuff said! Thanks for clearing that up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
