Setting Up Torque for Kona

[dragi84]

On 10/30/2019 at 9:09 PM, dragi84 said:

Hi ABRP community, 

Since august I am a Kia Niro EV owner. I use very often ABRP to calculate my trips and its a realy good App, on that way I want to thank the developers very much! In the first months i used my old samsung galaxy note3 (Phone needes up to 20 minutes to find GPS Signal) with a bluetooth obd dongle and torque pro App. All worked fine until I changed to new phones like samsung galaxy S7 and the huawei mate 20 pro where both indoor and outdoor temperatures are not showen, also when you look into the PIDs they are not green highlited and no values are showen. I checked it again with the old samsung note3 but there its also not working. Following I deleted te indoor PID with no improvement. Also I checked the Parameters from the csv file and they are Okey. Can somebody helf me? 

 

 Best regards 

Hi folks,

I fixed the issue by replacing the cheap bluetooth obd by the obdlink lx, now everything works fine again!

[Jason-ABRP]

On 10/30/2019 at 3:09 PM, dragi84 said:

Hi ABRP community, 

Since august I am a Kia Niro EV owner. I use very often ABRP to calculate my trips and its a realy good App, on that way I want to thank the developers very much! In the first months i used my old samsung galaxy note3 (Phone needes up to 20 minutes to find GPS Signal) with a bluetooth obd dongle and torque pro App. All worked fine until I changed to new phones like samsung galaxy S7 and the huawei mate 20 pro where both indoor and outdoor temperatures are not showen, also when you look into the PIDs they are not green highlited and no values are showen. I checked it again with the old samsung note3 but there its also not working. Following I deleted te indoor PID with no improvement. Also I checked the Parameters from the csv file and they are Okey. Can somebody helf me? 

 

 Best regards 

Hmmm, that seems very odd, hopefully we can help!

If no PIDs values are shown in Torque then it would seem your phone isn't even connecting to the car.  Perhaps try unpairing and re-pairing your bluetooth OBD dongle to the phone, then trying again?

Worst case, you could always uninstall Torque completely and set it up from scratch again.

[JoBru]

On 3/25/2019 at 2:21 AM, XavDoug said:

Hello all

I am a new ABRP user and a new EV driver. I found ABRP is a really good application to have and would like to contribute.

So I bought a OBDLink LX dongle and added Torque to my Galaxy S7 phone.

Now i need some clarification with the instructions I found in the ABRP settings menu for live car connection :

1) I downloaded the CSV file and added the PID but I did not found one "001_Outdoor Temperature". I looked the whole list in case in wasn't sorted alphabetically.

2) the web server URL is "http://abetterrouteplanner.com:4441/soul30". But in another thread, I saw it is actually "http://abetterrouteplanner.com:4441/kona64". (i did indicate my car model before using the setup menu)

I just wanted to make sure that the temperature missing is normal for my model

And again, thank you for this great tool.

I am looking for some clear instructions on how to setup Torque Pro in combination with ABRP.

For instance: is the web server you're referring to something to setup in Torque?

Newbie here getting his Kona this Thursday 

Grtz,

John

Edited December 29, 2019 by JoBru
Edit

[JoBru]

Well, think I found the web server settings in Torque.

Now going to try to get the pid list into Torque.

Btw: how important is the setup of a profile in Torque?

Grtz, John

[XavDoug]

Hi john

glad to hear that you have found your way in Torque. The best way is probably to follow the instructions on ABRP site when you complete your information. It gives a lot of information and the link to download the PID list.

Regarding Torque and its profile, at first I thought that it was not needed since I use it only on my Kona. But later on, I finally created a profile because the app seems to prefer it that way. Sometimes the app was refering to information from the profile and I was not sure that there was such thing as a default profile. Not sure if that did any differences. 

[Jason-ABRP]

ABRP doesn't really use any information in the Profile, but Torque does seem to like it, so you're welcome to fill it out.  Profiles definitely seem more oriented toward ICE vehicles, though.

[JoBru]

7 hours ago, Jason (ABRP) said:

 Profiles definitely seem more oriented toward ICE vehicles, though.

More oriented? Only oriented!

[JoBru]

10 hours ago, XavDoug said:

Hi john

glad to hear that you have found your way in Torque. The best way is probably to follow the instructions on ABRP site when you complete your information. It gives a lot of information and the link to download the PID list.

Regarding Torque and its profile, at first I thought that it was not needed since I use it only on my Kona. But later on, I finally created a profile because the app seems to prefer it that way. Sometimes the app was refering to information from the profile and I was not sure that there was such thing as a default profile. Not sure if that did any differences. 

Thx @XavDoug. Will make a profile then.

[Mack]

Can someone share their profile settings for a Kona EV, it will save me a headache trying to find the correct info.

Cheers.

[JoBru]

29 minutes ago, Mack said:

Can someone share their profile settings for a Kona EV, it will save me a headache trying to find the correct info.

Cheers.

Hi Mack,

As for Torque, as said earlier in this thread, it doesn't matter what values you choose. 

Grtz, John

[XavDoug]

Hi all

Some PID for the Kona:

Name,ShortName,ModeAndPID,Equation,Min Value,Max Value,Units,Header
006_Vehicule Speed,Speed,220100,ad,0,170,kmh,7B3
006_Display Odometer,Odometer,22B002,(h<8)+i,0,200000,km,7C6
006_Tyre Pressure FL,TyreFL,22C00B,e/5,0,50,psi,7A0
006_Tyre Pressure FR,TyreFL,22C00B,i/5,0,50,psi,7A0
006_Tyre Pressure RR,TyreFL,22C00B,m/5,0,50,psi,7A0
006_Tyre Pressure RL,TyreFL,22C00B,q/5,0,50,psi,7A0
006_Tyre Temperature FL,TempFL,22C00B,f-50,-50,100,degC,7A0
006_Tyre Temperature FR,TempFL,22C00B,j-50,-50,100,degC,7A0
006_Tyre Temperature RR,TempFL,22C00B,n-50,-50,100,degC,7A0
006_Tyre Temperature RL,TempFL,22C00B,r-50,-50,100,degC,7A0
 

I tested : 
vehicule speed (apparently it is the real speed, similar to gps speed, not the display value that is 5 km/h above)
Odometer
Tyre pressure FL
Tyre Temperature FL

For the 3 other Tyre, I can't guarantee anything. A typo is still possible.

I converted those PID from AutoPI community library. 

 

[Krolow]

On 11/16/2020 at 9:41 PM, XavDoug said:

Hi all

Some PID for the Kona:

Name,ShortName,ModeAndPID,Equation,Min Value,Max Value,Units,Header
006_Vehicule Speed,Speed,220100,ad,0,170,kmh,7B3
006_Display Odometer,Odometer,22B002,(h<8)+i,0,200000,km,7C6
006_Tyre Pressure FL,TyreFL,22C00B,e/5,0,50,psi,7A0
006_Tyre Pressure FR,TyreFL,22C00B,i/5,0,50,psi,7A0
006_Tyre Pressure RR,TyreFL,22C00B,m/5,0,50,psi,7A0
006_Tyre Pressure RL,TyreFL,22C00B,q/5,0,50,psi,7A0
006_Tyre Temperature FL,TempFL,22C00B,f-50,-50,100,degC,7A0
006_Tyre Temperature FR,TempFL,22C00B,j-50,-50,100,degC,7A0
006_Tyre Temperature RR,TempFL,22C00B,n-50,-50,100,degC,7A0
006_Tyre Temperature RL,TempFL,22C00B,r-50,-50,100,degC,7A0

Fixed a few typo's, all seem to work as intended on my 2020 Kona 64kw

Name,ShortName,ModeAndPID,Equation,Min Value,Max Value,Units,Header
006_Vehicule Speed,Speed,220100,ad,0,170,kmh,7B3
006_Display Odometer,Odometer,22B002,(h<8)+i,0,200000,km,7C6
006_Tyre Pressure FL,Tyre FL,22C00B,e/5,0,50,Psi,7A0
006_Tyre Pressure FR,Tyre FR,22C00B,(i/5,0,50,Psi,7A0
006_Tyre Pressure RR,Tyre RR,22C00B,m/5,0,50,Psi,7A0
006_Tyre Pressure RL,Tyre RL,22C00B,q/5,0,50,Psi,7A0
006_Tyre Temperature FL,Temp FL,22C00B,f-50,-50,100,degC,7A0
006_Tyre Temperature FR,Temp FR,22C00B,j-50,-50,100,degC,7A0
006_Tyre Temperature RR,Temp RR,22C00B,n-50,-50,100,degC,7A0
006_Tyre Temperature RL,Temp RL,22C00B,r-50,-50,100,degC,7A0

[RupOase]

Hello guys,

Which is the correct PID csv file?

The ABRP only ones or should I add all of them and pick some of them?

Also, I seem to have an issue reading the outdoor temperature. In my area were at most 9°C (shown by the car), but on ABRP it was logged 23°C. Most likely the website label displays Outside themperature as the 001_Indoor Temperature PID that is sent via webserver. You can see the attached log.

 

trackLog-2021-Feb-04_22-39-16.csv

[XavDoug]

On 12/21/2020 at 9:37 PM, Krolow said:

Fixed a few typo's, all seem to work as intended on my 2020 Kona 64kw

Name,ShortName,ModeAndPID,Equation,Min Value,Max Value,Units,Header
006_Vehicule Speed,Speed,220100,ad,0,170,kmh,7B3
006_Display Odometer,Odometer,22B002,(h<8)+i,0,200000,km,7C6
006_Tyre Pressure FL,Tyre FL,22C00B,e/5,0,50,Psi,7A0
006_Tyre Pressure FR,Tyre FR,22C00B,(i/5,0,50,Psi,7A0
006_Tyre Pressure RR,Tyre RR,22C00B,m/5,0,50,Psi,7A0
006_Tyre Pressure RL,Tyre RL,22C00B,q/5,0,50,Psi,7A0
006_Tyre Temperature FL,Temp FL,22C00B,f-50,-50,100,degC,7A0
006_Tyre Temperature FR,Temp FR,22C00B,j-50,-50,100,degC,7A0
006_Tyre Temperature RR,Temp RR,22C00B,n-50,-50,100,degC,7A0
006_Tyre Temperature RL,Temp RL,22C00B,r-50,-50,100,degC,7A0

Thank you for the fixes

Just in case others have the same issue as me: I want pressure in Bar and Torke keeps displaying PSI. I thought it was a mistake in my file but there is actually an option to force bar back to PSI. 

Regarding the car itself: I found out that if the pressure goes below 2.1 bar, the car turns on a warning light on the dashboard and display a low pressure message. To get rid of the message you must increase the pressure above 2.5 bar.
I used a foot pump to do it and I stopped at 2.4 bar. The warning message dissapeared anyway after a short trip because the internal pressure goes up when riding and it finally reached 2.5 on its own.

Edited February 5, 2021 by XavDoug

[XavDoug]

11 hours ago, RupOase said:

Hello guys,

Which is the correct PID csv file?

The ABRP only ones or should I add all of them and pick some of them?

Also, I seem to have an issue reading the outdoor temperature. In my area were at most 9°C (shown by the car), but on ABRP it was logged 23°C. Most likely the website label displays Outside themperature as the 001_Indoor Temperature PID that is sent via webserver. You can see the attached log.

 

trackLog-2021-Feb-04_22-39-16.csv 246.61 kB · 0 downloads

hello

When configuring ABRP on your PC or on your smartphone, you normally have a setup screen with links for the necessary PIDs. Those are the PIDs that ABRP wants to get but you are free to add the one you want. (for instance vehicule speed instead of gps speed is great i think because it stays true in tunnel)

The idea is that you should select only ABRP PID for remote logging since those are for ABRP sake.

[Krolow]

10 hours ago, XavDoug said:

Thank you for the fixes

Just in case others have the same issue as me: I want pressure in Bar and Torke keeps displaying PSI. I thought it was a mistake in my file but there is actually an option to force bar back to PSI. 

Regarding the car itself: I found out that if the pressure goes below 2.1 bar, the car turns on a warning light on the dashboard and display a low pressure message. To get rid of the message you must increase the pressure above 2.5 bar.
I used a foot pump to do it and I stopped at 2.4 bar. The warning message dissapeared anyway after a short trip because the internal pressure goes up when riding and it finally reached 2.5 on its own.

In the post I made here I made a typo when fixing other typos (I know the irony, and I cant seem to find a way to edit the post) 

Quote

006_Tyre Pressure FR,Tyre FR,22C00B,(i/5,0,50,Psi,7A0
should actually be 
006_Tyre Pressure FR,Tyre FR,22C00B,i/5,0,50,Psi,7A0

This is fixed since I discovered it in the csv files on github, just wanted to point it out in case anyone is just copying it from this forum directly to something else.

 

21 hours ago, RupOase said:

Hello guys,

Which is the correct PID csv file?

The ABRP only ones or should I add all of them and pick some of them?

Also, I seem to have an issue reading the outdoor temperature. In my area were at most 9°C (shown by the car), but on ABRP it was logged 23°C. Most likely the website label displays Outside themperature as the 001_Indoor Temperature PID that is sent via webserver. You can see the attached log.

 

trackLog-2021-Feb-04_22-39-16.csv 246.61 kB · 0 downloads

@RupOaseJust like XavDoug said, if you are just looking to get all the necessary pids to get logging to ABRP to work you can use the ABRP only file and it will contain everything that is needed.
If you are interested in being able to see other values for your own reasons in torque you are free to install all the other csv files. For example ABRP is currently not using the tire pressure for anything hence why it's not logged and sent to server. It is possible to see these values yourself in you want however. 

Personally I like to be able to see as much info as possible, but if the reason is just for ABRP logging then using the ABRP only file will make it easier to setup since all the unnecessary pids wont get installed.

I checked your log and from what I can see the 001_Outdo... is correctly logging the outside temp.
The only thing I could see from your tracklog that looks "wrong" compared to mine is that you seem to be logging quite a few pids that are not needed or used by ABRP, including the indoor temp for example, my guess is this is what caused to to miss interpret your information. I would advice you to go trough the guide of what sensors to send to ABRP again and strictly follow it, removing any that are not on the list. That is what is working for me atleast.