Setting Up Torque for Kona

[XavDoug]

Hello all

I am a new ABRP user and a new EV driver. I found ABRP is a really good application to have and would like to contribute.

So I bought a OBDLink LX dongle and added Torque to my Galaxy S7 phone.

Now i need some clarification with the instructions I found in the ABRP settings menu for live car connection :

1) I downloaded the CSV file and added the PID but I did not found one "001_Outdoor Temperature". I looked the whole list in case in wasn't sorted alphabetically.

2) the web server URL is "http://abetterrouteplanner.com:4441/soul30". But in another thread, I saw it is actually "http://abetterrouteplanner.com:4441/kona64". (i did indicate my car model before using the setup menu)

I just wanted to make sure that the temperature missing is normal for my model

And again, thank you for this great tool.

[Jason-ABRP]

For 1) it seems I missed a file, you'll also need this file as well:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/JejuSoul/OBD-PIDs-for-HKMC-EVs/master/Hyundai Kona EV %26 Kia Niro EV/extendedpids/002_Kona%26Niro_EV_HVAC.csv

I'll get both fixes updated and online shortly!

[XavDoug]

On 3/27/2019 at 1:36 AM, Jason (ABRP) said:

For 1) it seems I missed a file, you'll also need this file as well:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/JejuSoul/OBD-PIDs-for-HKMC-EVs/master/Hyundai Kona EV %26 Kia Niro EV/extendedpids/002_Kona%26Niro_EV_HVAC.csv

I'll get both fixes updated and online shortly!

Hi jason

Thank you for your reply. I downloaded the new file and did the whole setup again in Torque (pretty quick). I now have the new outdoor and indoor temperature values. I added them to Torque real-time display and both are displayed accurately on my phone. However, temperature is still empty when i use abrp "view live data". 

Can it be a problem with my Torque setup? I followed your instruction and changed two other settings I deemed appropriate for my configuration (Galaxy S7 and obdlink Lx bluetooth dongle). In Torque setup, i enabled  "Ne pas calculer les consommations" (do not compute fuel consumption ?). I also activated the "faster communication" option for bluetooth.

 

[Jason-ABRP]

Most likely not an issue with your setup, I'll investigate the Torque server and see.  Honestly, the temperature is not very important right now for the live-data driving mode, we'll recalibrate on power and speed mostly.  If temperatures are very low, we'll see that and recalibrate based on higher-than-expected power draw.

[XavDoug]

speaking of live-data, are short distances of any value to you ?

My commute distance is less than 10 km. My car is parked underground on both ends and exiting the building is a significant part of the power drain on such a small trip. (level -2 and -1)
Another problem is that i have a lot of covered road (large bridge, tunnel) on my way and the GPS speed indication is probably wrong 10% of the time.
(and I still searching the car internal speed value. "obd speed" not doing anything on my car.)

I have a 600km round trip every month or so and will make sure to have Torque running. But for commuting ?

[schtruck]

On 4/4/2019 at 5:28 PM, Jason (ABRP) said:

Most likely not an issue with your setup, I'll investigate the Torque server and see.  Honestly, the temperature is not very important right now for the live-data driving mode, we'll recalibrate on power and speed mostly.  If temperatures are very low, we'll see that and recalibrate based on higher-than-expected power draw.

HI Jason

 

If would be cool to activate temperature to get more accuracy result especially when today the weather is cold in the morning and more than 10degrees celcius in the afternoon. 

For a long trip it would be very important I suppose. 

 

On my side temperature is not displayed on live data screen of abetterrouteplanner

[Jason-ABRP]

Can you double check what the PID is displaying as in Torque? Perhaps I have it wrong on the server side. 

1. In Torque go to: Settings > Data Logging & Upload > Select what to log
2. Find the Temperature PID, underneath it it should have a string like: "PID: ea9e51"

What's the PID labelled there?

[XavDoug]

In that menu, I see a bunch of identical green icons  with label "[xxyyzz] Normal PID"

and the one:

001_Outdoor Temperature

PID:220100 Min/Max:-50.0/50.0

Equation: (G/2)-40 Unit:degC

[schtruck]

Just tried to replace the pid by the one you have given:

Ea9e51 and still no temperature displayed. Something is wrong. 

[Jason-ABRP]

Sorry, that was an example for a different car.  I definitely had the wrong PID in the server, I've added 220100 to the server as Kona / Niro temperature so it should work now.

[XavDoug]

Hi Jason

the temperatures now appears correctly in the live data.

Thank you for your work.

[schtruck]

Yep i confirm it works great now.

I checked a 400km trip  (go and back) and abetterrouteplaner was very usefull even when charging on Ionity networks

It's great to be able to see the charge level in Realtime when charging and when driving to see the simulated and the real battery level

thanks

[XavDoug]

Hello

I think i've got an issue on my Galaxy S 7 and Waze. I made a 300 km trip friday 19 april and i was using Waze to avoid trafic congestion
to no avail since Waze was frozen after only 20km or so. I close it but the problem was actually with the phone GPS.

Looking in Torque Log later on, it seems that it was actually the phone GPS data that were stuck. (speed and coordonate were frozen on same value).

Is that a known issue on Galaxy ? or is it Waze ?? I was using Android Auto to start Waze and after 30 minutes or so, waze map was not moving any more on my car display.
Actually we were exiting a 10km long tunnel, so the display was stuck for a while. It start moving again then froze.

[XavDoug]

I think i can now answer my own question: there is an issue if you try logging with the Samsung/Android power saving mode enabled. After 30 min or so using Android Auto, the power saving stops the GPS and the GPS data are subsequently frozen. (not updating any more)

=> In conclusion: always disable power saving !

For the return trip, i disabled the galaxy S7 power saving and the log seems OK (GPS part anyway, april 22th).

Additionnal info: weather was good with no wind to speak of and only a light rain once. Temperature around 18°C.
About 300, maybe 310 km, with a self-imposed speed restriction to 110 km/h (displayed).

started with a full charge, ended at 32%.  (average 14.5 kW)
On friday, I arrived with battery at 31% and i thought it was because of a rear wind (maybe 15kW/h) but I did not notice any wind on Monday.

I was really surprised because I ended at 22% for the same trip with the same conditions in february. (except temperature)

 

[Jason-ABRP]

An excellent find, thanks for doing the digging on this and posting your answer!

[XavDoug]

Hi all

I've recently done a trip from Chatou to Angers and back, so about 2 x 300 km.

I am mortified to say that I am apparently an absent-minded fool who forgot to disable the power saving feature each time. I blame Samsung on not disabling this feature when the phone is hooked up to the car with an USB cable.

However, on this trip i used Ionity chargers for the first time. The charging data are ok and I attached the logs.
may 31th, i started just below 50% and the car did not used the top speed: in 45 min, SOC was up to 86% or so.
June 3rd, I charged from ~32% to 95% (displayed) and the Ionity station provided  75kW/h for the first part of the operation.

Weather was fine and there was no winds on both occasion. I decided to run at top legal speed (130km/h, 134 displayed) and take avantage of my new ChargeNow badge to test Ionity.
In its logs, the car reported 305km with 194 Wh/km and 294km with 189 Wh/km. (speed limits are 130km/h for 200km, 110km/h for maybe 50km then mostly 70km/h)

I don't think the ABRP_Fast_Charging is valid: i do not remember it being anything else than null, even during the charge on Ionity station.
And i am not sure about the "Max Deterioration" value either.

Thank you for APRB. Hope this help.

 

Probe Logs.7z

[Jason-ABRP]

Thanks for all the data @XavDoug!

Based on your feedback, I changed the PID I'm pulling from the rapid_charge_port to the HV_Charging parameter, and changed the Max Deterioration parameter too, perhaps that'll provide a better status:

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Felger/OBD-PIDs-for-HKMC-EVs/master/Hyundai Kona EV %26 Kia Niro EV/extendedpids/ABRP_Kona%26Niro_PIDs.csv

If you wouldn't mind re-downloading the ABRP PID list and updating those two parameters?  Also, could you double check that when those get selected the PIDs are still ea9e51 and ec3d7f (Data Logging & Upload > Select What to Log), if not please tell me what the new ones are so I can add it to the server.

[XavDoug]

Hello. I downloaded the updated CSV file and reconfigured Torque. It displays ea9e51 for State of Health and ec3d7f for Fast_Charging (was e9840a and ec3d7f previously)

I will use Torque tonight for commuting but this is only a 8 km trip. My battery level is high at the moment and I don't think i will need a charge before 2 weeks or so.

Thank you for the update. I will provide new logs if I remember to switch off the phone battery saving feature next month.

PS: i did not change the "user email address" and webserver address in Probe this time. I think there is a new email value every time I look at the setup procedure but the one I got is fairly new. Is that ok ?

Edited June 7, 2019 by XavDoug
forgot to mention Probe web setting

[Jason-ABRP]

Yes, we issue a new token every time you open that subpage, you don't need to re-enter it once you have a valid token.  

[XavDoug]

Hello

I just returned from a two-ways trips from ~Paris to Angers. I started Torque and again forgot to immediately disable power saving on the way back.

But my problem here is that i can't find any logs. The Phone Torqueloads directory is nowhere to be found, even if logs are still activated.

Is anyone aware of this problems ? was there a change in torque ?

[subnivean]

Hello,

I just started using ABRP with a Bluetooth OBD2 dongle and Torque Pro on Android. All seems fine, except: I noticed today that when I added `001_Indoor Temperature` to Torque's logging output,  ABRP's `View Live Data` displays that temperature in the `Ext. Temp` field instead of  `001_Outdoor Temperature`. If I remove `001_Indoor Temperature` from logging output, it (correctly) displays the outdoor temperature again.

I'd like to be able to log the indoor temperature to get a feel for how my climate settings impact range when outside temps start falling (like, to -20F or so).

Great work, thanks!

[Jason-ABRP]

27 minutes ago, subnivean said:

Hello,

I just started using ABRP with a Bluetooth OBD2 dongle and Torque Pro on Android. All seems fine, except: I noticed today that when I added `001_Indoor Temperature` to Torque's logging output,  ABRP's `View Live Data` displays that temperature in the `Ext. Temp` field instead of  `001_Outdoor Temperature`. If I remove `001_Indoor Temperature` from logging output, it (correctly) displays the outdoor temperature again.

I'd like to be able to log the indoor temperature to get a feel for how my climate settings impact range when outside temps start falling (like, to -20F or so).

Great work, thanks!

Ah, that's a quirk of how Torque formats PIDs for server logging.  Since there are only two piece of data on that one PID, I figured I was safe in not creating a pseudo-PID for them like I did with the others.  A potential solution might be to rename the PID to something that falls behind `001_Outdoor Temperature` alphabetically, perhaps `z001_Indoor Temperature` and see if that gets Torque to send the Outdoor "first", ensuring it gets the slot when going to ABRP.

Otherwise, I'll need to make a pseudo-PID for it and set up the server to receive.

[subnivean]

Sounds logical, I'll try that tomorrow

Thanks again!

[subnivean]

The 'rename-to-z001...' suggestion did the trick, thanks.

[dragi84]

Hi ABRP community, 

Since august I am a Kia Niro EV owner. I use very often ABRP to calculate my trips and its a realy good App, on that way I want to thank the developers very much! In the first months i used my old samsung galaxy note3 (Phone needes up to 20 minutes to find GPS Signal) with a bluetooth obd dongle and torque pro App. All worked fine until I changed to new phones like samsung galaxy S7 and the huawei mate 20 pro where both indoor and outdoor temperatures are not showen, also when you look into the PIDs they are not green highlited and no values are showen. I checked it again with the old samsung note3 but there its also not working. Following I deleted te indoor PID with no improvement. Also I checked the Parameters from the csv file and they are Okey. Can somebody helf me? 

 

 Best regards