gnuarm Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Description: Routing uses highways that are temporarily closed Link to Plan: https://abetterrouteplanner.com/?plan_uuid=9bacf67b-66d0-43e4-9c60-690f0069dd5e Replication Steps: The route indicated above between Asheville and Knoxville. Don't even need a route, the issue is with the map not showing the road as closed. The road should be shown as closed and not used for a route Here is the same roads in Google maps. https://goo.gl/maps/LYwd87G8qh22 I was in this backup for three hours and expected to be there all night. The next day I tried to plan a route and it still wanted to take me on I-40 through the pass which will be closed for a week. Now, three days later it is still not showing as closed. If it's any consolation the Tesla navigator also showed the road as open the next day while Google maps showed it as closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnuarm Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 It has been five days and the route is still being provided on the closed road (I-40) and the map does not show any issues. The Tesla in car navigator does not route on the closed road although I'm not sure it shows it as closed. Google has been clearly showing all the road closures since the day after the rock fall, in less than 24 hours. Also, the news has been asking people to not use Rt 25, to use Rts 81 and 26 instead since that is all highway with facilities. I don't know how they expect this info to reach the various navigation aids, but it should be reflected in the routing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason-ABRP Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Hmm, that's an interesting problem. We get our road data from Open Street Map, and have to ignore a number of road conditions that are often out of date. It's a problem we're aware of and trying to find a good solution for. In the meantime, the best way to work around it is to either pick a waypoint (charger or otherwise) that routes you around I-40, or just start driving on the imperfect plan using Google or Tesla's browser, and we'll replan once you leave the route we recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnuarm Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 "Interesting"! That's an "interesting" response. I looked at Open Street Map and see that they literally have no way of dealing with temporary road closures. At least that is what the links I found say. There is an outstanding proposal from 2016 which it seems has not yet been acted on. Other pages seen to talk about applying this proposed conditional restriction, but I can't find enough info for me to understand how to do it. . I get that these projects are not commercial efforts. But I didn't realize there was such an important feature lacking. At least now I know not to trust any routes on ABRP until I verify them with other, more reliable sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo-ABRP Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 The maps we use for routing in ABRP are still semi-static, updated weekly. We could update more frequently, or we could go to dynamic data including temporary closures and even traffic. However, we are not there yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnuarm Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 Ok, thanks for the feedback. It is important to know these sorts of details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnuarm Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 Just to give some feedback, I don't use ABRP for in trip routing... normally. At least I don't recall checking it in the car when I was stuck. I think I used Google maps. I typically use ABRP for planning ahead of trips since I can't do that in the car unless I am starting where the car is parked at the time. It's also a lot more comfortable to do this in the house instead of in the car, lol. So real time updates are not so important to me. It would be useful to have daily updates of road closures though. I think I mentioned that the next morning, long after the road was closed, ABRP would route me along I-40 where it would be closed for a week. In Google maps you can choose routes even if you can't exclude routes. Perhaps there could be a way for the user to block the use of a route? I think these sorts of improvements are important since ABRP is the only useful alternative to the in-car navigator since it considers charging. In EVs, trip planning makes charging consideration essential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odie Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Hey, very cool tool, used ABRP yesterday for the first time on a long trip that required multiple charges. Maybe using data from google will help solving the closure challenges? I know this requires a paid API license but I think it will certainly improve abrp. Maybe a paid option for us “use google for live traffic data” could be added? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
