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  1. Update: Drag co-efficient according to Aerodynamics specialist Wouter Remmerie is 0.48 - admittedly he says, a "quick & dirty analysis based on a public 3D model".
  2. I'm surprised this thread didn't already exist 🙂 Obviously they are not in the wild, so can't get precise driving/charging model info. However ABRP includes the Tesla Roadster which is in the same situation so I'm assuming estimates can be made. We don't have a lot of the data which is required for the analytical model as mentioned in the blog post. What is the workaround? Models (with EPA estimated range, in case it helps): Single motor - 250 mi / 400 km EPA est Dual motor - 300 mi / 480 km EPA est Tri motor - 500 mi / 800 km EPA est. We don't have info on the batteries, other than the Tri motor is a double stacked version of the single motor. We probably can't even estimate the mass due to the unusual materials used. Motor1 says "our educated guess is that the Cybertruck is some 1,000-1,500 pounds (450-680 kilograms) heavier [than the F150] but this is just an assumption as we don't have exact and official details." F150 is 4400 to 5300 lb. Front area is probably the easiest to calculate: 78.8 inches wide x 75.0 inches high = 41.04 sq ft / 3.813 sq m (not allowing for the gap under the car - subtract about 14% if this area is to be excluded) Charging curve - assume the same as the Model 3? Anyone else have any insights?
  3. Yep - only 50 kW+ sites! Otherwise there would be hundreds of them. ABRP does use AC charging locations, but not for most of the time. Definitely add AC ones to OpenChargeMap though if you spot them and would like ABRP to use them, since ABRP will import from there.. In case you're wondering why I don't just add the DC chargers to OCM - I keep the spreadsheet for a secondary purpose - many networks have a list of 'Coming soon' locations which are up to a year away. I use the data in the spreadsheet to make a map of "What the Australian fast charging coverage will look like in 12 months time". Note that only Operational chargers are imported into ABRP, but all the "coming soon"/"speculative" ones are used in my other maps.
  4. @caf I think the Chargefox app shows two pins at the site - the 22kW chargers (which have been there for months) and the Ultra-rapid charger (which is new). I'm only including the fast & ultra-rapid sites in the spreadsheet, so I don't include AC chargers (except where a fast charger site has an AC charger adjacent to it). AC charging sites are not particularly helpful for ABRP's purpose (routing long distance trips) which is why I don't include them. I believe ABRP also sources from OpenChargeMap, which would be a good place to add the 22 kW sites (if you want to do them all manually, that is!)
  5. Hi RQP, I have had a similar issue where the length of the ferry is taken into consideration as a driving leg. Example, Ferry from Devonport to Melbourne, in Australia. Route is 440 km. Trying to do a route in a Tesla Model 3 LR works, only showing 1% of the battery being used. The same route in a 24 kWh Leaf doesn't, despite the fact the Leaf would only need to travel a couple of kilometres on land at each side. https://abetterrouteplanner.com/?plan_uuid=41f5b96f-3443-4a10-8f6b-5f0eacb6c499 In my case (East Devonport is on an island) it doesn't offer a route. In your case, it takes the land-based route instead. This is a known issue - I reported it to ABRP some time ago.
  6. Hi Grim, someone noticed this on another forum and it turned out there was an issue with OpenStreetMap in that location causing routing issues. Someone has fixed it up now, but it will take at least a day, maybe a few days, for the routing engine to catch up to the changes. Give it a retry in a few more days.
  7. When you click on the charger you get this : Showing that the source of the charger is NREL.gov. The link takes you here, where you can provide them with the correct information: https://developer.nrel.gov/contact/
  8. I just had a look on ABRP and there is no supercharger appearing in that location. There's nothing on either Plugshare or supercharge.info either. It could have been removed in the few days between you making this post and me replying?
  9. Hi @Bo (ABRP) - forgot to tag you before - any chance of this change being implemented?
  10. Hi Paul, I just zoomed in really close, found an AC charge point (there was one just south labelled "Ecotricity - Travelodge") and clicked "Add this charger as waypoint". As to why it didn't try to route through it, I'm not sure. The 3.5 kW refers to the charger in the car. I think for the i3 that you selected it would be 7 kW or 11 kW. Still, that shouldn't affect the routing!
  11. I wondered why the charge times were so long, I thought it was a bug... it didn't occur to me that the "theoretical" 50 kW station I was attempting to charge from was giving me the time for 3.3 kW 😄 I use this feature for testing to see where the best places for future DC fast chargers would be. I agree, seems like a good request.
  12. I can confirm that all supercharger sites in Australia & NZ are at least partially CCS converted (100% of sites, and about 88% of stalls at last count). There are at least one under-construction site, which currently has no CCS stalls; however this site isn't open yet. I would be very surprised if it opened without conversion occurring. Spreadsheet where this has been tracked: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wTtPb02vWhi8RW_4VtsFyY34CWUoFzjPv-YXrZaJ9l4/edit#gid=0
  13. Hi Bo, I just wanted to say thanks for doing this - I've been updating the spreadsheet as new chargers come online and it's been working really well! A comments and a request: I'm planning on reusing columns J-M for other things. Don't worry, I won't shift/rename other columns! Is it possible for you to only import the rows which have "Operational" in column A? At the moment I have two separate sheets in the workbook, "Data" for Operational, and Coming soon" for In progress or Speculation. Both sheets have the same layout and I'd like to put all on the same sheet, but have ABRP only import the "Operational" ones!
  14. Thanks @Bo (ABRP) - that is brilliant! The only issue I can see so far is that some of the chargers already exist (from OCM) and so naming consistency is a bit off. I'm guessing existing stations take priority? If I update columns in the spreadsheet, will it overwrite? Which columns are you using for connector info? J-M or N-Y? I provided both because I wasn't sure which was best for you, but they provide the same info in two different formats. I can remove the unused columns.
  15. Hi @Jason (ABRP) - any further updates on whether ABRP can make use of this data?
  16. Good idea - similar to my suggestion here!
  17. Thanks Jason, I've created a Google Sheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A6jrzPsrrUyWzEQ4HVpoaHK85cK3un0auG1b5Gc85NA/edit?usp=sharing Note that there is a second tab "notes", which contains some general background info. Specifically I've provided the plug data in two formats: Columns J-M and N-Y. Please let me know which of these formats works best for you (or something else entirely). Also if there are any more fields that you need. I'm also sharing this spreadsheet link with a few EV community groups for their comments, as noted on the "notes" page.
  18. More information that may be helpful - see this route: https://abetterrouteplanner.com/?plan_uuid=83140118-fd1f-4a4f-924d-1820eb020e28 (Launceston, Tas, to Richmond, Vic) - basically the same as before but with another ~100 km of driving first. Note that the routing engine is happy for the route to be completed with an 85D boarding the ferry with 65% (despite this giving it less remaining range than a 75D at 100%, which fails - in both this example and the previous example). I'm not sure what this means but it might help to work out what the issue is!
  19. Update - I notice that the distance is displayed correctly now - 8 km, 436 km, 8 km (rather than 8 km, 436 km, -428 km). I'm not sure if something was updated, or if I did something different on my end. Everything else is the same though!
  20. +1 for this! There are slight differences between Australia and New Zealand, but there is enough overlap to group them: Our EV plugs are (common to Australia and NZ) J1772 (same as US - generally max 7.2 kW) Type 2 (same as Europe - generally max 22 kW) Tesla (same as Europe - generally max 22 kW) - can confirm both Australia and NZ use the European connector Our wall plugs are (with comments relating to Australia, not sure about NZ): 10A socket (max 2.4 kW) - referred to as "Type I" by Arthur - this is the common one that is in all households. 15A socket (max 3.6 kW) - described in the "Type I" link Arthur posted - not common generally, but in Australia it is the defacto caravan park standard, however I don't think this is the case in NZ. 3-phase socket (max 22 kW) - technically a "32A 3-phase socket" - not common generally, but is seen in industrial settings. However it has been used extensively in the Round Australia Electric Highway, making it very important for EVs. It exists in NZ but is almost non-existent. The fourth wall plug that should be included is the one Arthur mentions - CEE Blue - I haven't seen in Australia so I assume it's NZ only. I'll have a go at doing up some icons for these in the coming days, but here are some images: Picture of 10A vs 15A (very similar, probably can just use the same icon) Picture of 32A 3-phase:
  21. Description: If there are no suitable DC chargers on a route, permit the routing engine to use AC chargers to fill in a gap. Use Case: I live in an area with few DC chargers - I drive a 2012 Leaf and the nearest DC charger is 200 km away. AC slow charging is necessary for some of us! I've tested some routes which would be possible with an AC charge (and the charger appears on the map) but the routing engine doesn't use it, instead opting to fail to identify a route. This also applies to the Round Australia Electric Highway. This is a not a network of chargers in the traditional sense, but a collection of "dumb" 22kW three-phase power sockets which have been installed by enthusiasts around remote highways across Australia. The rationale behind them is that it will be a long time before DC fast charging comes to these remote routes and so these sockets will be the only available option for the foreseeable future. More info here: https://www.teslaowners.org.au/round-australia
  22. Thanks Jason! One of the organisations I've mentioned, Chargefox, is experienced in running EV charging stations so I expect they'll want to do something like this. I've logged a request with their support team. Of the others, the Queensland one is run by a government department and their chargers aren't managed from what I can see (they are free and not part of any charging network). They might not have the resources, or if they do, it might not be a priority for them. The NRMA network is kind of in between the two (they aren't an EV charging specific organisation, but they are taking a greater hands-on approach). Would the simple Google Sheets option be better for these locations? Any comments on "data provider to ABRP" vs "data provider to OCM to ABRP"? Obviously any site info that goes to OCM just flows on to ABRP without any effort from you, but are there any benefits to the provider interfacing direct to ABRP?
  23. Addendum to this: I’m happy to create a Google Sheet with the relevant site details if that is a quicker way of setting this up. I just need to know what fields are required and in which order. (Then later on as the relevant companies/government departments make their feeds available, a more long term synchronisation method can be set up.)
  24. *Almost* all of them can. Note that some of the older ones are still 120kW (not v1, which were 90kW - just early v2). See the comments from joel in this thread: https://forum.supercharge.info/t/supercharger-sites-data-which-need-updating-or-contain-errors/250/84
  25. Description: When a route includes a ferry connection, ABRP uses the distance of the ferry route as part of the range calculation. This can result in routes not being found for short range vehicles. Link to Plan: https://abetterrouteplanner.com/?plan_uuid=aba9bef8-b356-43f0-95e9-5147b91e5a36 Replication Steps: See the link as shown above. Note it includes an 8 km land route, a 436 km ferry route then another 8 km land route. Vehicle used is a Tesla Model S 2012-2018 85D. The route plans correctly. Change the vehicle from an 85D to a 75D. The route does not plan correctly - no routes found. This route should be able to be calculated even with (e.g.) a Nissan Leaf 24kWh. Note that vehicle SOC calculations are correct. The distance is "cancelled out" with the next step (distance is shown as "-428 km") so the total trip distance is correct.
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