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  1. These share the same platform an will be released this year. They have a 50kWh battery pack. Driving Model: Option 1 - Analytical - A Peugeot: ‭2.49535‬m² Opel: 2.532775‬m² Source: https://de.automobiledimension.com/modelle/peugeot/208-2020 https://de.automobiledimension.com/modelle/opel/corsa-2020 Cd Guesstimate 0.26 Crr No idea, guessing similar tires to Zoe M Peugeot: 1530–1558 kg Opel: 1530 kg Source: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_208_II#Technische_Daten https://www.opel.de/fahrzeuge/corsa/technische-daten.html Pidle No idea. η No idea. They have efficiencies of 16,9kWh/100km (Peugeot) and 17kWh/100km (Opel) respectively in the preliminary WLTP Cycle Charging Model: Charge Curve - Said to charge at up to 100kW, Said to charge from 0%-80% in 30 minutes (https://www.opel.de/fahrzeuge/corsa/einfach-elektrisch.html). Curve no idea, might be similar to iOn or not.
  2. The Skoda is one of the cars with the shortest time to be released.
  3. The preset max speed of 190 km/h seems insane. Trying out different speeds for one route indicates the fastest overall speed would be about 130 km/h.
  4. Description: The Charger https://www.goingelectric.de/stromtankstellen/Italien/Vahrn/Mautstation-Casello-Bressanone-Val-Pusteria-A22/35340/ is from the highway operator, but in the planner its attributed to the network "Alperia". For reference this is a real Alperia charger: https://www.goingelectric.de/stromtankstellen/Italien/Varna/Raststaette-Kostner-Via-Forch-2/35468/ Link to Plan:https://abetterrouteplanner.com/?plan_uuid=0eb90e96-1555-4117-a729-83dd40814b98 (Its the end point) PS.: Also maybe you could add the network of the highway operator "Autostrada del Brennero Spa" as its own network? These chargers for example also belong to them: https://abetterrouteplanner.com/?plan_uuid=b584a94e-6441-40a6-b020-384381dac283 The data on goingelectric seems consistent, still its wrong on ABRP somehow.
  5. Yes all those parameters are taken into account by the planner. It does not take into account one drivers weight, you will have to add one yourself. It will also work correctly with different parameters of course but the result will be more refined with better matching parameters. Headwind can make a significant difference, battery degradation can also sum up to a significant difference and extra weight might be important if you have big changes in altitude on your route.
  6. Hi Marc, click on the charger and then follow the link "Charger Homepage". There you can edit the source. In Bremen and Germany specifically most chargers are sourced from goingelectric.com which has a function to report manfunctions "Störung melden". You need an account on most sites to edit charger information though.
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    Yes, we have different providers here in Germany; instead of Clever we have Allego, EnBW, E.ON, Ionity and others. About the manual departure charge: yes, sorry, meant to say that too. 17€ to start? Havent head of that, where do you see that? If, in Germany, its a start fee, then its mostly around 8€. Still not useful for most cases with a leaf but not too bad. For your trip thorugh germany i can highly recommend getting a Maingau RFID. Everywhere it works the cost is 0.25€/kWh, which is cheaper than germans get electricity at home. As for your suggestion i think its hard to do. The pricing information is missing for a lot of stations and the informations sources are mostly crowdsourced sites, which means pricing could often be wrong. Even if there were such an option now i would crosscheck every charge session, and thats not really useful at all.
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    Hej Nick, the planner is optimized for speed, not cheap charging. You will have to pick out your chargers yourself. The preferred networks should be used, but i think the priority is still chargespeed; so i guess the clever chargers are all 50kW and the planner prefers more power over your preferred network still. By the way its the same situation for me. I live in germany and like to use the free Aldi/Lidl/Kaufland chargers. I find it easy to spot them with the star and take detours (as in "Add this charger as waypoint") if i want to. Happy planning!
  9. Wow, fast response! Thank you very much! Much appreciated as always!
  10. If i don't have live data, can the replan function use the expected (or reported via drive mode) battery level at the point the route was left?
  11. Hi! Have fun on your Sicily vacation! (For now) ABRP is website only indeed. Although Android and Safari let you set websites up as web-apps so they open frameless.
  12. Optimizing in favor of efficiency would make you drive at 40km/h / 25mph (see https://forum.abetterrouteplanner.com/uploads/monthly_2018_11/Analytical_Ioniq-Hyundai_Ioniq_range_metric.png.a4482bd2c5c86dc4fb85049bc63befd0.png from https://forum.abetterrouteplanner.com/blogs/entry/4-hyundai-ioniq-ev/) which is hardly realistic. what you probably want is reducing the Max Speed to something you deem acceptable in both time and efficiency.
  13. For the Model 3 there are different models for a few wheel choices. But they are few and far between. In the meantime you can always change the reference consumption to account for different wheels than the model.
  14. AFAIK Tesla will only limit charges to 80% if you are not navigating to a place where more than 80% charge is needed to reach it.
  15. Description: When using the new charger max charge setting to get more short than few long stops the planner didn't use another supercharger on a part of the route it says it can't find a workable plan for. Link to Plan:https://abetterrouteplanner.com/?plan_uuid=3fb21c08-4ffc-44dc-8cd7-0adca6739ba9 Replication Steps: Use Link to Plan OR Use Tesla Model 3 LR RWD Aero Set Reference Consumption to 144 (Metric) Set Charger Max Charge to 60% Set Max Speed to 130km/h Use CCS (and Tesla CCS) Plan Constance -> Berlin See it doesn't find a workable plan from Weimar, charging to 60% there and arriving at Berlin with -1%. Why didn't it use the Supercharger at Nempitz as the next stop after Weimar (If you manually set Nempitz as a stop it does find a workable plan, even with Weimar manually set as well)?
  16. You can click on the street to see what speed it actually simulates at that part of the route. If the Battery graph goes down rapidly you know where the parts, at which it actually simulates 200km/h driving, are. As far as i know, the planner doesnt take traffic into account, so if you set it to 200km/h and that speed is allowed it will simulate driving at that speed. Depending on you driving that is also worst case, which is advantageous to have in a simulation for critical stuff like this. You can play around with the setting for max speed to see which is faster, because going full speed is seldom the fastest overall speed with an electric car. Most electrics only have one gear for going forward, which makes them spend increasingly more ressources at increasingly high speeds, its not comparable with a combustion engine car. From experience, for the SR+, 130km/h should overall be the fastest option. This means you will take less/shorter breaks and spend more but safer (due to lower speed) time on the road. At the end of the day, not time spent chargin or time spent driving is relevant, but the combination of both. Look at the total duration and determine if you can live with that time. For long routes it might take more time in winter.
  17. Hi, i already asked this, see here: https://forum.abetterrouteplanner.com/topic/208-set-waypoint-by-coordinates/ Spoiler: Its possible.
  18. I think you could emulate a plan with the Zoe Model. That would take care of the right charger (Type 2 right?). Then maybe change reference consumption so it charges often enough, or just as often as possible, because with 40km range on the highway you will want to stop at every resting area.
  19. In the Ioniq with Apple CarPlay it doesn't work like that sadly. If you use a CarPlay App it also switches to that App on the phone. So it is not possible to have both Maps in Carplay and ABRP on the phone at the same time. I have actually missed turns on two occasions already because of this. Its not optimal. I would either have to plan the route on the car's navigation or have a second phone.
  20. OT: This i find very fascinating! You know the planner ist powerful if it knows you can spend more energy and take the autobahn to save two minutes one way but not the other. Also for green light, fellow bavarian, with this route you can take a quick charge in Dachau if the weather on the way home get particularly gnarly and you suddenly wouldnt make it.
  21. I know you have it working, just the threshhold seems off by a little bit. If you change the plan to start at 24% it goes around the mountain. Also i totally get that its a somewhat low priority error because of its rarity
  22. Description: Planner says i can make the trip to the Großglockner Hochalpenstraße (Heiligenblut as the return point) and only need to charge on the way home. On closer inspection this seems to be a bad plan, as on "Törlkop" on the way back up before the big descend it says i will be at -1% battery. Link to Plan: https://abetterrouteplanner.com/?plan_uuid=13559c2f-313e-47e7-a486-a957a5b3664b
  23. Bad news for the Ioniq FL: https://www.hyundai.news/eu/press-kits/new-hyundai-ioniq-offers-a-range-of-new-enhancements/ Will be charging a lot slower than hoped, seems about the same as the Kona 39, maybe you already have some data for it? If not the analytical system for its charging should work fine for now.
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    ABRP 3.7 Release Notes

    You fixed the maps! First impression is that its a bit slower?

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